What happens when you confront centuries of social conditioning with raw evolutionary data? You get Neil deGrasse Tyson’s latest viral interview on Club Shay Shay, where he delivered a staggering scientific truth bomb that proves why our modern concept of race is an absolute illusion.

On the June 4 episode, the beloved astrophysicist joined host Shannon Sharpe to discuss everything from ocean depths versus deep space, the reality of the dinosaur-killing asteroid and alien life. But the conversation took a profound turn when Sharpe asked Tyson to explain what actually separates Europeans, Asians and Africans, aside from the geographic regions they come from.

“Well, we all came out of Africa,” Tyson quickly replied. “Humans’ origin is in Africa. There is no dispute about that, at all.” The physical evidence backing Tyson’s claim is etched directly into the Earth.

According to the Smithsonian Institution’s Human Origins Program, the fossil record definitively establishes Africa as the birthplace of human species following the discovery of the famed 230,000-year-old Omo Kibish fossils in Ethiopia. Despite that fact, many white people simply refuse to acknowledge their Black roots—and Tyson explained how they manage to do so.

He described how you’ll meet an “Italian,” but when you ask them where they were born, they answer: “America. Where were your parents born? Brooklyn. Where was their parents born? Italy. I’M ITALIAN!”

“You see what they’re doing? They’re [white people are] going back their tree, finding a place that soothes their need to have some kind of an association, and they stop there,” Tyson added. Sharpe replied, “Even if they never been to that place!”

Source: Scientist Neil deGrasse Tyson On Why White People Refuse to Admit They’re Actually Black